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Review: NCISLA “Sirens” (S8E10)


Sirens

Another week, another solid episode of NCIS: Los Angeles. I’m beginning to feel a little spoiled by the show’s consistency, which is slowly but surely raising my weekly expectations. What a pleasant development! This week’s “Sirens” was completely lacking in the Densi department, and it didn’t give Deeks much to do, but it entertained me nonetheless. Written by Erin Broadhurst and directed by Jonathan Frakes, it featured plenty of humor and lots of new developments in the continuing mole storyline.

The Case of the Week

As I always say, the week’s case is automatically more interesting when the team is somehow personally impacted, and having two men shot dead on your lawn feels pretty personal (or so I assume, I can’t say it’s ever happened to me). Broadhurst balanced the drama with humor throughout, and she brought many nice touches to team interactions. For example, showing us that Callen has grown attached to his home was sweet, as was Sam pointing out how Callen was repeating his father’s decisions to push his family away. I hope Sam’s point will be heard, and that Callen will talk to his sister sooner rather than later. Hmmm, sounds like just the sort of material one would want in a Christmas episode! And again having Sam team up with Deeks to tease Callen brought a smile to my face. Callen may not have liked it, but I will never tire of seeing those two work together. Of course, the tables were turned with the business cards, but I took it as all in good fun, as (I think) did Deeks.

Hetty was delightful throughout the episode, more animated than usual. I enjoyed her scene talking over the case with Nell, particularly the way her small, pleased smile showed a little pride at Nell’s initiative. As for Nell and Carl, the interrogation scene offered a nice twist on many such previous scenes where the agent shares a personal story to bond with the suspect. I liked how Nell used her greatest asset, her mind, to manipulate Carl. I liked how she told that overly dramatic story that had me siding with Carl and laughing along with his mocking reactions (Please tell me there’s a moral to all this), only to realize that she was just biding time and setting Carl up with the other inmates. Well played, Nellosaurus.

The Simon to Your Garfunkel

I’m afraid the Deric is back. While again I generally found Eric’s behavior over the top, at least he was in the safety of Ops where he wasn’t risking anyone’s life or otherwise impeding the case. “Egon” was an excellent nickname for him (a reference to Harold Ramis’ dorky Ghostbusters character). Just like last time, Eric Christian Olsen did what he could to balance out Beale’s wackiness by providing some humorous reactions. Wiggling, really?

Eric: Dude.
Deeks: You’ve been over here humming for the last ten minutes.
Eric: Hmm. I’m sorry. I didn’t even ask you to harmonize. [Sings] I’m here – you’re here.
Deeks: I’m he- that’s a hard pass. You’re trying to make me sing the Garfunkel part and I’m obviously a Simon.
Eric: Alright Paul, take a seat. You’re lurking is making me nervous. [Deeks sits, Eric stands.]
Deeks: What just happened? Did we get something?
Eric: Ah, no, just my hourly reminder to stand up.
Deeks: To evil?

Hetty should go into the field more often. She was adorable and I enjoyed how much she seemed to enjoy being there. She was almost having too much fun. How cheeky was Deeks, telling Hetty, “Uh, Miss Daisy isn’t supposed to drive?” She wasn’t fazed in the least by his hilarity. The driving scene was incredible. It was hard to tell how much of her reactions were Hetty’s happiness at being in the field with Deeks, versus Linda Hunt’s happiness acting with ECO. Regardless, I want more of this please! And while I’m unhappy that apparently none of the females on the team are good drivers (thank you for fulfilling that stereotype, writers), it was nearly worth it for the comedy gold of Deeks and Hetty:

Deeks: Fragglerock!
Hetty: We must have beat Callen and Sam. Yay!
Deeks: I think we also beat the sound barrier. Yay. You perchance weren’t the one who taught Nell how to drive, were you?
Hetty: No. I gave her a few defensive driving lessons.
Deeks: Yeah, I can see that.
Hetty: You should probably get a haircut.
Deeks: Oh, don’t worry, next time I’ll wear a helmet, possibly a parachute. Definitely a diaper.

I also enjoyed her calling him “Martin,” and him responding, “Yes, Mom.” Just too cute. And can we take a moment to think about how wonderful it is that he seems to have three maternal figures in his life (counting Julia), along with one brother in Sam? Heck, he even has a semi-stepdad in Granger. I’m so happy for him.

Densi. No, Make That Kensi

I very much missed seeing the Deeks and Kensi together; it’s like something is off in the NCIS:LA universe. I’m sure they’ll make it up to us in the Christmas episode?! On her own, Kensi got a chance at comedy with the two moms. I thought the scene was fine, but maybe they were trying just a little too hard to be funny. I did absolutely love the idea of the two moms bonding over drinks. Again, can I get a fan fic please?

And Kensi is running now? Wow, she certainly seems close to being back to full strength. It made me wonder about some Daniela Ruah comments I remember about how Kensi’s injuries would have her questioning her future. Thinking back over this arc, I’m a little disappointed that we’ve never seen her deviate from her plan to return to work. Sure, she was fixated on possibly never walking again, but we never saw her think through what that would mean for her future. How would it have changed her career and family plans? Did she ever come to terms with the possibility of some other future? Right now she sure seems dead set on returning to work, as if there are still no other options out there. It would have been nice to see her make some realizations about other possibilities. Maybe someday when they next discuss kids we’ll see some indication that she’s thought more about how she’d make that work? I at least hope we’ll see some evidence that this experience has changed her in some way.

Sullivan freaked me out a bit, well actually a lot. Who shows up unannounced at someone’s house like that? Their walking scene was good but that little warning voice in my head was yelling that he was not to be trusted. It might be all you paranoid commenters out there getting into my head, LOL, or maybe it just was the scene’s timing, immediately following Hetty’s overly ominous “The wolves are at the door. I’m not sure it’s safe to trust anyone anymore” statement. At any rate, I was afraid for Kensi even though it made no sense that Sullivan would have been working for the mole.

When Kensi wasn’t home at the end, I even wondered if the note had been written by Sullivan- we all know that Kensi doesn’t cook dinner! (Maybe Erin Broadhurst has missed this little factoid, or maybe fan fic writers have my mind confused about what is canon?)  I thought for a moment that the note and the “home cooked meal” would send Deeks calling for reinforcements, telling the team, “Kensi is missing and I think her abductor tried to cover his tracks by leaving a homemade dinner behind- a dead giveaway that something is wrong!” I don’t even know if Broadhurst intended the extra suspense there or not, but I was feeling it for sure.

I did like the Sullivan-Kensi friendship, but it was so sad to see that Kensi’s reaction to her friend being reinstated for duty was to feel competitive and think she should be able to do the same. Again, her face told the whole story as she tried to shoot with her left hand.

Memorable Moments

  • Sam points out that the mole has been after Hetty, Granger and himself. He forgets that the mole also tried to take Kensi out by leaving her the poisonous plant at her desk in “Traitor.”
  • For the record, it is never OK to make us wait until the second commercial break for a glimpse of Deeks. Never.
  • What did we think of Densi’s new house? It’s much more modern in style compared to Deeks’ former Craftsman bungalow.
  • As little as I liked Carl as a character when he was initially identified as the mole, I’ve come to appreciate him and Adam Barley’s work giving him such a distinct personality.
  • Again, the show made nice callbacks to prior episodes, with Eric’s noting the mole held him at “syringe-point”, references to Joelle, and the return of the mystery lady who tried to pick up Granger in the bar.
  • Nate Hartley was quite amusing as Vinny the security guard. I wouldn’t mind seeing him come back to annoy Deeks some more with his LAPD wannabe dreams.
  • There were several scenes that ended with nice nonverbal elements: Eric seeming relieved when Deeks finally left him alone in Ops, Carl straightening his back like Nell had earlier advised, and Kensi’s look of frustration and sadness at her inability to shoot straight. Don’t know if they were scripted or were touches added by the director?
  • Again I’m such a sucker for little Deeks-Sam moments, like their final exchange where Sam admonished him to “Keep your ears and eyes open” as he reached out to pat his arm, and Deeks walked away with a “Thanks, brother.” Awww.
  • The bartender definitely had Granger pegged. A sad badass. I’m so worried about him.

Come back later in the week for a new Surf Log and Journal, plus the Edit and Drabble of the Week. Unfortunately there’s no new episode for three weeks! How will we survive? That means next weekend we’ll be without the Classified Preview, but we will have a new Top 3 with the Top 3 Deeks Undercover Roles.

In the meantime, what did you think of “Sirens”? Did you like the mix of humor and action? How about Nell in the field solo? Kensi’s progress, or lack thereof? Were you worried about her like I was? And were you as charmed by Deeks and Hetty? Tell us your thoughts in the Comments!

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121 Comments on Review: NCISLA “Sirens” (S8E10)

  1. Apologies in advance,
    You will see why as you read on,
    I wrote down these thoughts as a first impression immediately following the show before reading any reviews.
    I sure I will soften my opinions as time passes and I read your responses.
    Even after a day, my thoughts have changed some, but I will leave this as is anyway.
    Sorry.

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    • Sorry Ed, but I am curios why do you post almost each sentence on its own. Why not post all your thoughts, comments .. in one post?

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      • Sorry Beth,
        my thoughts often come out as a jumbled mess. I have tried to write a long reply and frequently wind up either repeating myself repeatedly or leaving something out I wanted to touch on.
        i am sorry if they. are too to short or brief. it is an ADD thing or something, multiple thoughts at a time. I also have a problem figuring out if I agree with a post or not if if it is really long, feelings are mixed and convoluted at times. some people here do a fantastic job with a thorough review or summary and i am envious. I do not have the ability to do so. So, instead of writing a jumbled mess that even confuses me, I break it into topics that i can understand. Hopefully others understand what i am trying to say, it doesn’t matter if they share my point of view as long as it promotes discussion.
        If I have offended you I apologize and will try to do better
        Sorry,
        Ed

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        • No you haven’t offended me at all. I was just curious and what you are saying here is reasonable (as are your comments). Thank you for taking you time to answer.

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  2. Well, I was just going to come out and tell you what I thought of the episode, but I realized I would likely be censored or outright banned from this site. If this was fanfiction, I would just mark it with a “M “, add a warning for adult language and move on… Since I can’t do that, I decided to take a deep breath and try to find the right words to state what a big steaming pile this episode was.
    Once some time passes, I will re-watch the episode without the high expectations and may be able to enjoy the episode, but I am sure not there as I write this. I am overwhelmed with disappointment and it is affecting me and my opinions at the moment. The fact that I have to chew on this for 3 whole weeks makes it even worse.
    First off I need to set aside the moms as being one of the funniest things I have seen in a while, I just loved it. More on that later.
    Aside from the moms, there was very little to enjoy about the episode. There was so much to look forward to and with my anticipation so high, it was a huge letdown as the show unfolded. I have not been this disappointed since at least “Blame it on Rio”. Yes, Dinozzo was a jerk and Kensi was very insensitive to Deeks, but a big part of that was due to the ep playing so far out of sequence being filmed

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  3. oops, part 2…
    as 6/23 and not airing until 7/5. Having it air right after command and control and Deeks expressing his doubts, was an awful decision. So, it gets a part of a pass.
    This however, to use Deeks’ own words, was just dreadful.

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  4. The moms,
    After checking my blood pressure, I decided to watch some puppy videos and then start with the moms.
    Undoubtedly the highlight of the episode, nothing else was even close. Although I could pick at the details of the situation, I will not do so. The interaction between the moms and with Kensi was just wonderful, one of the funniest scenes we have had in a while. Just loved it.

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  5. Check the box,
    I got the impression that the writers had certain place that they wanted Kensi, Sullivan and the mole hunt to be and were just trying to check the boxes. It wound up disjointed with these odd setups to get to the point they wanted. It sure didn’t flow well or even make sense at times

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  6. Sullivan,
    Man did that seem creepy.
    Says he should have brought flowers, really.
    Brings over a 6 pack in the middle of the day without calling first.
    Why would he even have their address. A phone number maybe, but that was odd.
    Then to drink 3 beers and ask her to go for a ride. Wildly inappropriate and incredibly disrespectful to Deeks.
    I did not like the interaction at all.

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    • Have to agree about Sullivan having her address…did she offer it at some point when they were rehabbing or did he drive her home?? Good questions. And I agree…with you and with Karen…he is a little creepy and I don’t trust him.

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      • Agree with both of you about Sullivan , he is creepy . I really did not like the Sullivan character at all , he seemed pretty obnoxious to me. Kensi told him she had a boyfriend, he met the boyfriend and he still kept hitting on her, it was really annoying.I know I often see comments about the show and why we never get recurring characters. I have to be honest, I am one of the people who loves this show but I have to say I do not want recurring characters because they really do not seem able to write them very well . It seems like every recurring character has to be sexually interested in one of the main characters. We got Sabatino, who was hitting on Kensi, then we had Talia , who was hitting on anyone and anything, Anna, who is flirting with Callen and now Sullivan . I know I saw in this long thread someone say men and women can be friends and be platonic, clearly that is the case, we all work with both sexes, I did not think Kensi was interested in Sullivan, the problem is that the show runners seem unable to bring in a recurring character that is not flirting with someone. The end result of the recurring charactering being interested in a main cast character, is that at least half the people watching cannot stand the recurring characters, which is why the show has few. I am not blaming the fans, I am blaming the writers.

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        • you know, as far as characters go, I would have loved if down the road we got to see Thapa at Kensi and Deeks wedding on the beach.
          sad they killed him off.

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        • now that kensi and deeks are official, it talia a bad thing.
          fans didnt like her because she flirted with deeks. I get it, I really do. But, I also think that Talia’s flirting forced Kensi to address her feelings towards deeks.
          it may have been jealousy at first, but it made her think about why she was jealous in the first place…she cared about him… at least it made Kensi face her feelings. it may have forced her hand.
          just a different way to look at it

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          • I do understand what you are saying about Talia, the problem is she repeatedly flirted with Deeks who was unresponsive. They were at work, in very dangerous jobs, her behavior was unprofessional and harassing. In “Citadel” she physically touched him , grabbed his face; in many workplaces that kind of unwanted physical touching is grounds for dismissal. I think that Talia is a terrible role model for young women and as such does not belong on the show. If Deeks had done to a female agent what Talia did to him in ” Citadel” , they would have had people screaming at them that they were condoning sexual harassment.

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            • agreed and very true,
              but then again, I was not happy with the way kensi used to punch deeks either…
              but i just love them together…
              so I guess i look at it that if talia pushed kensi to act on her feelings for deeks and get our favorite couple together, I can live with it

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    • I hated everything about Sullivan. He was a sexist pig and I’m so glad he’s gone. I hope he doesn’t come back.

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  7. Super Nell
    While at least we didn’t have to see Nell in the field doing triple backflips with a gun in each hand, or chasing down bad guys while riding on a drone she built out of toothpicks and duct tape, it was still too far out there. We are now led to believe that (aside from Eric of course) that Nell is the best interrogator on the planet. Far superior to marginally more experienced, but less smart buffoons like Hetty, Granger, Sam, Callen, Deeks and Kensi…. Oh, wow is she good…. are you kidding me.
    If that isn’t bad enough, we had to watch it in what was the longest scene in the show’s history.
    We had a setup with Hetty, where she brought it to Hetty’s attention that the mole knows where they live, like Hetty would overlook that idea after having 3 or 4 houses and a boat shot up and compromised. Wow Nell, we never thought of that.
    Then the interrogation was so long it had to be broken up into 4 scenes and consumed a total of 7:40 minutes. What a waste. No Densi, but we get that…give me a break. The jail scenes took up nearly one fifth of the total show. Then Natalie dies like 2 minutes later, for reals…

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    • It occurs to me that “Super Nell” is just more evidence that Hetty has been grooming Nell to be her replacement. According to the legends, Hetty was a bad ass, do everything type of agent in her day which is why she has the position she does. Nell also known Owsley where the bodies are buried, who’s involved with what organization and how and, now, how to handle herself in the field. The character of Nell Jones is a genius in Operations. How could she be any less than over the top in the field as well.

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      • I see where you are going with this, but one skill set has nothing to do with the other.
        A brilliant tech operator or computer expert doesn’t make a skilled interrogator, an expert marksman, or a top notch self defense stud….
        Otherwise, Steve Jobs and Paul Allen would have been ruling the MMA and Chuck Norris would be designing nuclear reactors. Lets not forget Stephen Hawking and his marksmanship titles.
        Ridiculous,…I know, but you get the idea.
        Just because she is a genius does not mean she has the hand-eye coordination to shoot well, the strength, balance,coordination and instincts to be good at hand to hand combat, or the ability to read a suspect and conduct an interview better than anyone else.
        If I wanted to watch MacGyver, I would do so.
        I do think Nell is being groomed to replace Hetty, but this has become pretty far fetched.
        just my opinion.

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      • While I agree it has seemed that Nell was being groomed for Hetty’s position, as the season wears on, I’m starting to wonder if she isn’t actually the mole. I have no specific clues to give in defense of that opinion. I think it is a feeling about some of the cast interviews that have me leaning in that direction. Also, the fact she is so focused on Carl, and that whole interrogation in this episode, helped solidify my suspicions that she may be involved.

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        • Agreed, I do think Nell would be a good candidate for the mole.
          I also thought she may have bee being groomed to take Hetty’s place because, while I don’t think Hetty is the mole, I thought she might give her life in a fight with the mole during a confrontation. that would have left Granger to upgrade Nell into that position. But now with Granger’s apparent health issues, it is more likely that he would be the one to make the sacrifice. I thought Nell was the mole originally. It has to be someone we have already met, right.
          So we could have Sullivan as a part of it, Nell, Nate, Paul Angelo, Anna, Talia, Grace Stevens, someone from the Red Team….
          then there is Eric, maybe he needed the money and his screwball antics are just a cover.
          Wouldn’t it be cool for him to switch it off instantly, kind of like the first time we saw Max ( in the bar) cold and ruthless…any other ideas?

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          • I think it definitely has to be somebody we’ve already met, yes. I like where you’re going with this whole Eric scenario, too. Much like his demeanor changing once Deeks left Ops, and Eric spins around in his chair, the smile goes away and the annoyed look appears. That certainly changes that ordeal he went through with Carl, eh? Maybe that was all for show just to keep anyone from suspecting Eric… Wow – now wouldn’t THAT be something?

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  8. Eric,
    Eric wasn’t bad, but while the singing was talented and under other circumstances would have been funny, under these conditions and with what was going on, it seemed way out of place. He is way talented though…
    Glad he is back in opps and showing his skills. Dramatically better than last week.

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  9. Kensi + Sullivan
    It just seemed odd, if Deeks is actually a little jealous, Kensi won’t make him feel any better with the way the day went. Send off the moms then spend the day drinking with the guy. Although they aren’t related, the events could potentially appear so. Then taking the time to cook but not picking up the bottles. Leave a note but not say where you went, no text, no phone call. Just let Deeks come home to realize you are not there. Not cool.
    Was the Sullivan thing set up just to make us wonder if when Deeks got home he found that…
    1) Sullivan was a bad guy and had kidnapped Kensi
    2) Sullivan was a snake and was sleeping with Kensi.
    Not sure, but I am glad it was neither. Although I hated the idea, the thought of a love triangle did cross my mind….YUCK

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    • Geez, Kensi! You cooked and seemed to actually have cleaned up the kitchen except you didn’t throw out the beer bottles? It felt like she wanted Deeks to find all those bottles and worry about her drinking excessively or driving drunk or being targeted by the mole. She cooked dinner, which was a great gesture but didn’t want to eat it with him? She could have set the table, light some candles, open a bottle of wine. But no, she didn’t tell Deeks where she was going and waited until he left the mission to go where Deeks presumably was prior to going home.

      Does she really think she’s ready to go back out on the field? They have said before that one moment’s hesitation could mean life or death, right? She wasn’t very smooth loading her gun and she had a table to help her. On the field, that hesitation could have been disaster. How is she going to load her gun quickly? She wants what she wants regardless of consequences and would willingly(?) risk her or Deeks’ life just to compete with Sullivan since he’s back to work. I hate that Kensi’s growth in S6-7 has been lost. She’s back to being selfish.

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      • agreed,
        i feel they missed a great opportunity for a nice scene where Kensi cooks a first nice meal for Deeks and expresses her love and appreciation to him for all his support.
        yet another first that we missed because of the writers.
        a little sad.

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  10. Thank you for the great review.

    Even though I am not a big fan of this mole storyline, it was nice to see that the team was starting to get closer to the mole (after “Traitor” 2 years ago, it is about time). I just hope Deeks and Kensi are not the next ones in danger. It felt a little strange for me that Sullivan knew where Deeks and Kensi live, (Did Kensi tell him or how did he find out?) I know that they became friends in hospital, but now that the team is in danger it felt a bit weird and maybe even little careless (and little bit out of character in my opinion) to let him know their address, (maybe it is just my imagination running too wild :))

    We haven’t seen a lot of Hetty in previous episodes so it was great too see more Hetty and I loved those Hetty and Deeks moments.

    I can’t wait for next episode and I hope for some great Densi scenes, I really missed them this week.

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  11. Kensi and Hetty.
    With a good attitude, support and something to work for being so important to a recovery, the way Hetty handled the meeting with Kensi was crap. Not very supportive or reassuring. As someone that has not forgiven Hetty for the junk she has pulled in the past and does not really like her…she did nothing to make me change my mind.

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    • Have to disagree on your take here about Hetty. It’s her job to make sure Kensi is able to handle herself in the field. Letting her go out with Deeks and find herself unable to protect him would put them both in danger. Hetty was simply allowing her to see she still had a ways to go.

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      • I agree with Lindy. I was totally onboard with Hetty. Hetty was protecting Kensi and the team by subtly proving that Kensi’s not ready to be in the field. I also like that Kensi was seriousky hurt in the field and it takes time to heal and get back into fighting shape. I know this is a by-product of DRO’s maternity leave, but it still makes for good realistic TV.

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        • you know, maybe i stated things poorly, or i just may be wrong…
          I totally agree that Kensi is not ready to come back yet. I guess I was upset that Hetty didn’t give her an answer aboout coming back. I feel it was just to create more drama.
          she, after Kensi ask if she would take her back, easily could have said yes after you pass all your tests. or that there is nothing she would like more, once she is fully ready..
          the no comment stuff, followed by a morale breaking off hand shooting scenario. could have been a chance to see how far Kensi has progressed as well as setting some expectations for a return to duty. what we got was a morale busting, poorly managed bunch of negative crap.

          was Kensi ready to come back yet, of course not. I twas just handled poorly by Hetty I feel.
          a small margin of sympathy and support would have a good thing, I think.

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  12. After the team openly mocking Sam for practicing his week hand shooting… now Hetty wants Kensi to shoot with her of hand, really a joke.

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    • They might have been teasing Sam but it is important to know how to shoot with your weak hand. I know it was part of my training. Hetty had a two-fold reason for this: she had to get through to Kensi that she wasn’t ready to come back to work yet and to stress the importance of at least semi-mastering this. Before the crash Kensi had been a master in it.

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      • I dont disagree , but it was used to make a point and not as any form of motivation.
        I feel that instead of the meeting being supportive. Kensi was beaten over the head with her failures.
        not a great way to encourage continued progress.

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  13. Still with the double standards
    After harping on Deeks about trusting his partner, and all the talk about acting as a team, the Hetty in the field thing was a disaster. She did not communicate with her partner, disappeared, leaving Deeks looking for her. Expecting a partner to be there and they aren’t is dangerous. Maybe almost as dangerous as performing a breach entry and not knowing where your other teammates are.
    An incredibly stupid move that she would not tolerate from the others.
    If Deeks had of done that, Sam would have been screaming at him instead of that stupid smirk at Hetty.

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  14. Safety is job one
    After Deeks got chewed out about security protocols, what the heck happened here.
    Callen’s house is compromised, Garrison is in a secure house in Santa Barbara, they have gone after Sam and his family, Hetty has bullet holes is 3or 4 houses and a boat. The mission has been penetrated, twice! Kensi was given a poisonous plant. Granger was poisoned, Hetty thinks the wolves are at the door, so to speak and is not sure if it any safer at home than at work, and Sam tells his partner to stay close… BUT NOBODY TELLS AN INJURED KENSI…really. No text or call, no security detail at her house, she is allowed to leave without notifying anyone as to where she went. Into the mission after dark when it is supposed to be empty. after it has been penetrated already. A great plan, way to look out for your teammate. Pathetic.
    I know it was a setup to keep us on edge about Sullivan just a little bit, but it was stupid and unrealistic of the team.

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  15. How about the worlds slowest muscle car…
    Sam needs to trade the Challenger for a Prius.
    I know we have to suspend belief and I am fine with that…like when the Challenger gets shot with dozens of holes and Sam and Callen don’t need to take the bus or Uber back to the mission all the time.
    Really, who does all the windows, body work and painting. They must get a volume discount.
    Anyway… they noticed the van when it was behind them and had warning, so how in the world does the Challenger get caught, passed up and cut off by a ford cargo van.
    Another fail by Sam and his defensive driving skills. Not very good…

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  16. Not a single second of Densi…
    BOOOOO, HISSSS
    Need I say more.

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  17. Thank you for the review.
    When you say solid does it mean something good or not so good?
    I agree with you on Nell and Carl, I love the Eric and Deeks scenes though and like you the banter between these three guys and the Hetty Deeks drive.
    But the rest was just a disappointment. First the mole story is not interesting anymore. They needed too much time to figure it out (the writers) and now I am over it. Sorry, I just don’t care anymore (maybe also because they said it will affect Sam the most and he is not my favorite). Also, they could have pushed it in Sirens to get closer to the mole, but no, they decided to focus on Kensi again. And the worst part is that the mole story will not continue until sometime in January due to the Christmas episode. Maybe it is a good thing that this season has only 22 eps. Just imagine this boring mole hunt for 24 eps.

    The Kensi story is over for me. I mean these three scenes with Kensi were they really necessary this long and detailed? I didn’t like the scenes with the mothers (badly played nothing real), Sullivan was okay but still too long and the last scene with Hetty was just a big ‘WHY?’ for me. If they would have cancelled all these scenes, the guys could have gone after Heather/Rae and closer on finding the mole.

    One more thing regarding Kensi. Didn’t Sam mention that she lost about 2 liters of blood? Something like open fracture? So the scar faded into nothingness? This has always been a weakness for this show, the details. Paying attention to them is not very difficult but I guess the director for the Kensi scenes is not really into the details or he is and doesn’t know how to.
    I just hope next year the show will get better soon. Right now the focus on two or three storylines is too much for the crew and cast to deliver at the same level as they used to in former seasons. I just watch the shows recorded so I can fast forward when needed (and it is needed pretty often).

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    • Why do you even watch this show? You don’t seem to like anybody. You should write a fan fiction story and get your frustrations out that way, although I’m not sure who would even be in it.

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      • I love the show, that is why I am so involved. And to answer your question. I like Deeks and Callen for very different reasons. Actual I am not the only one who doesn’t like this episode. For me it is still a crime drama show and I hope the writers and producers will keep that in mind. I am not a romance/soap fan, never was and never will. And some episodes are so in the romantic/soap genre that I really don’t like them.
        Have you ever read any ff? Most of them are badly written and so OOC, these have nothing to do with this show, only the looks of the characters are used nothing more.
        So am I allowed to have my opinion and post it here or not?

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        • Admin Post: Everyone is allowed their opinions but if you are not able to accept other people’s opinions too then please don’t post.

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        • I read and write fan fiction and have been since season 2. I started writing because I wanted to delve deeper into what makes these characters tick and to fill in what I felt was missing. It relieved a lot of stress, which is why I keep writing.

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        • For the record, Lindy writes some of the best fan fiction out there, and they’re Deeks-centric or Densi-centric. We all have our likes and dislikes. As a romance writer I do love the up-close-and-personal character scenes especially with Densi. I can understand why you might not like it. We all watch the show for our own reasons, and yes, I for one think that you have every right to state your opinion here, and the other posters have the right to state theirs. I think at some time or other we all disagree with another poster and give our opinion. It’s a two-way street. I don’t usually have a lot of time to respond but I read everything and I do marvel how someone could see the same show as I did and not see it the way I saw it, but that’s life, that’s people and it’s what makes these boards interesting.

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          • With tongue in cheek…thanks for having my six…as the boys would say. It’s fun to see all the comments about this ep and the show.

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    • The scar could be high up on her leg enough to be covered by shorts. And I looked up the IM nail they used to fix her leg, the incision they made for that operation is on her hip so we won’t see that one unless she’s in a swimsuit or some other revealing outfit.

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    • Beth, out of curiosity, where did you see that season 8 was only 22 episodes instead of the usual 24?
      I must have missed it. That’s disappointing
      thanks

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      • Rick Tunnell originally said they were renewed for 22 episodes. He was recently asked by a fan about the number of episodes and Rick Tunnell said they now were approved for 24 episodes. So no need to worry, they are doing very well this season; their ratings are very good.

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  18. Thanks Karin for your review. This was the one I was really waiting for, dying to see other opinions on this episode. And I am really trying to be positive about this one, but I can’t. I was so happy with this new season – stories, cases, Kensi, Deeks – everything has functioned perfectly so far, but not this episode. I didn’t know what to think about it at the first. Everything seemed to be mixed in some kind of mishmash after which I was left only annoyed (the last time I felt like this was after Blame it on Rio – so I am with you Ed on this one!!). Mole story is ok, but it is really high time to come to a conclusion soon, otherwise we would all grow old and loose teeth before we find out who the mole is and why – so episode gives the expected progress in that way, but that was (next to Deeks) the only one good thing.
    Eric – I do not know why they chose to ruin Eric character but what we see now is bad. He seems to go backwards in his growth this season – all your comments about his behaviour on the field were spot on and I agree with all of them, but what was too much for me was again his face expression after Deeks left OPS – hey Eric this is just not the way to treat the friends especially those who lent you money, even better gave you money, for your obviously unsuccessful business ventures.
    Nell – our little genius- it is all nice and peachy but seems that she is the only one who can make any kind of difference in solving the problems. Is it really so? When you have Nell you do not need anybody else.
    Kensi and Sullivan – now this is what really bothers me the most and not because I think he is any kind of treat to Kensi (as a mole or connected to that) or to Kensi’s relationship with Deeks, but because of the length of time they spent together and the purpose of their meeting. Let’s assume that moms (another flop for me – not funny at all) left around breakfast time – that could be around 10 am, Sullivan appeared, let’s say at 10.15 am with 6 bottles of beer (hey maybe they were non alcoholic ones – that would explain driving and responsible behaviour), now I do not know how long has he had to stay to drink all 6 beers (Deeks found all of them opened), but seems to me some time and then, that was not enough for them (Kensi and Sullivan), so she walked with him where he had park his car and we and Kensi got to know the reason why he came at the first place. Now I do not doubt Kensi’s love and loyalty towards Deeks but I wonder what did they talked about that long, what did they do that long. Next he told Kensi that she wanted to go for a ride with him in his new and fancy truck. We do not know what she did in the end, and I am not native in English but Deeks himself thought me back in the S2 what “ride” could mean too. So maybe Sullivan really wanted to take Kensi for a ride – see guy really, really likes to spend time with her, but his tone saying that was wrong, all wrong.
    In the end we found out that Kensi made a dinner for Deeks and herself (was that all to show us that she didn’t go for a ride in the end but ran back home to make a dinner and show Deeks all her love by doing something so much out of her comfort zone and canon and this meal just screams “you see how much I love you”?) and went to the mission to practice shooting wanting to return to work as Sullivan did.
    So Kensi and Sullivan are friends? (in the last episode she still acted annoyed when Deeks asked her about the story with him saying they spent time together at therapy and that is all) – so not friends. Got closer due to unfortunate circumstances and push each other indirectly helping their recoveries – now question of the address rears it head. Why to give your address to somebody who is not your friend?
    I mean what has Erin Broadhurst thought, what has she really wanted to say or to show us with Kensi and Sullivan scenes?
    The episode is full of misplaced humour and do not get me wrong I love humour and it is not easy to write it well in the way NCIS LA is providing us repeatedly but I am not championing humour for the sake of the humour itself. Situation is bad, the team is highly compromised and Hetty herself is saying to Eric in one scene (and that scene honestly doesn’t have to do anything with anything) that “wolfs are coming and you cannot trust anyone” and in the next scene she is driving like maniac just to come before Sam – is she five? Atmosphere should be gloomy, heavy, one should feel and sense those wolfs approaching and brace himself/herself for the “big finale” (so to say). But what we got is some inconsistency in everything causing poor mixture.
    Callen and Sam were good with just appropriate amount of banter and seriousness , but it was Deeks who saved the day for me. I have written here already that I started to watch this show when his character was introduced, but I read recently an article or post or I do not remember exactly what it was, mentioning Deeks or ECO as the guy who saved the show and, hands down, I cannot agree more.
    Sorry guys for so much ranting about this episode but it really didn’t sit well with me and I hope I will forget about it soon. And sorry for all spelling and grammar mistakes but the words just couldn’t be stopped.

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    • very well said,
      it unfortunately took me a dozen posts to say that I agree.
      assuming that Deeks is actually a little concerned or jealous, and that Kensi is really faithful and in love with him (which I truly believe)… she didn’t do a great job of making him believe in them.
      his expression was just so sad and uncertain it hurt me to watch

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  19. Sorry for the passionate response, but here goes.

    Men & Women can be just platonic friends. Just because they may banter doesn’t mean they want in each other’s pants or want a romance with each other, jeez! Kensi is not a cheater, she is semper fi to Deeks. She loves him!!!!!!!!! I’m not worried about Kensi being unfaithful at all. So can we stop the slut-shaming?

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    • To clarify this isn’t drietected at any one in particular, but I have read some comments of displeasure with Kensi & Sullivan and worry about her leaving Deeks for him. I’m sorry, but those comments felt like slut-shaming. Unnecessary slut-shaming.

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      • Ryan,
        although I do not believe that Kensi will cheat on Deeks, her behavior doesnt help with his being so unsure about them now. assuming nothing happened (which I believe) what kept her from a text or a phone call. we are still waiting for an “I love you ” from her this season, still…
        I just think her behavior is not typical of a young couple in love…
        just saying.
        a small display of love and appreciation isn’t that hard
        come on girl….kiss the guy… show your man you still love him…

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        • Another way to look it is that for us, when the screen goes black the show ends. But for the characters in their fictional universe time keeps going, so we don’t know she has told him she loves him or not. The lack of the romantic behavior in previous episodes, I attribute to the dark place Kensi’s mind was in plus logistical reasons due to them shooting 10 episodes worth of scenes in only 5 days to cover DR’s maternity leave. IMO though I feel like the look she gave him at the end 8×09 when they interlocked hands said “I love you” and she did say she was using the ring as motivation in 8×08. They have always been nonverbal communicators.Also I think he was confused in the latest episode but not about them but slightly worried about the mole not to mention having doubt’s about the dinner that Kensi, the girl who can’t cook, made for him 😃. Also, Deeks could have just as easily called/texted her.

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          • Ryan,
            I understand what you are saying and agree with as big part of it.
            I guess where I struggle is with 2 points.
            If the ring was really motivation, then where is it ?…not on her finger…
            Her behavior, right after Deeks expressed some jealousy or at least concern, gave me flashbacks.
            It reminded me of the Blame it on Rio stuff with her drooling over Dinozzo and his clothes that she pulled right after Deeks had expressed that he felt he could not provide for her in the way she deserved. it was just another time when her words and her actions were not consistent or very sensitive to her partner’s feelings.
            it may have been innocent and friendly,( which I believe it was), but maybe it was insensitive given the timing.
            Also, if we are still to believe she can’t cook, then she is lying about something that is trivial…. and that makes one think about what else she is not honest about.
            if she did actually cook, then I can’t figure out why she would not be there to enjoy it with him, it would be a great accomplishment, and I feel she would reap the rewards and share it with him.
            I realize they ran out of pre-filmed Dani footage and such. I also think it will get fixed soon, Maybe for Christmas.

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        • And hey! Look on the bright side, with the next episode being the Christmas episode it brings a pattern. Some of the most romantic or heartfelt moments between Densi in the Christmas episodes. S6 had them going all in and kissing on ice (ironic considering the “Frozen Lake” in S5) and in S7 she forgave him after he confessed that he killed Boyle & lied to her about it for months. She even gave him a fraction of a kiss with promise of more at home. 😉

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          • Ryan,
            Your absolutely right about the wonderful possibilities this Christmas episode could hold.
            I also feel that since we have to wait 3 weeks for it….then another 3 weeks after it as well before another episode….that they owe the fans something special.
            I truly hope they deliver a gem for us ,because another 3 weeks of this will be unbearable if we get another dud.

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  20. This wasn’t my favorite episode, but it had its charm. My favorite scene was Deeks squeezed into Hetty’s tiny car, his knees almost to his chest. Scaring Deeks with her road racing must have been fun for her.

    This was definitely a set-up episode with lots of loose ends to tie up later. And…there is nothing wrong with that, but I can see fans don’t have a lot of patience to wait for the outcome, especially since we don’t get a new ep for three weeks. What was nice, was Deeks being cheerful until the end, where we could see the uncertainty on his face. Superficially, I did love him in that dark blue long-sleeved T. Hot. It was simply nice to see that big smile back on his face and joking with Sam and Callen. I am excited that Deeks and Callen will be partners in the next episode, something I have wanted to see for a very long time.

    I like the mystery of the mole storyline and I hope when we come to final on that we get lots of fireworks and a deep sense of satisfaction. However, I doubt very seriously that arc will end in the Christmas episode.

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  21. As it was for many others, this episode was ruined for me by the lack of a single Densi scene. Instead we get pointless Sullivan/Kensi scenes. Moms scene was ok but also pointless. Don’t blame Erin Broadhurst, however. If I remember correctly, the Kensi scenes filmed ahead were written by Showrunner and then dropped into the various episodes. Also, extensive Carl interrogation scenes went on way too long. Cut those back and plenty of time for the one smalll Densi scene that would’ve satisfied viewers.

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  22. Looks like I’m going to be the odd person out here. I enjoyed the episode, though not as much as others, this season.

    I loved the Mom scene, especially where they’re trying to out-Mom each other till Kensi is ready to kill them both. I thought the Nell/Carl scene was brilliant. Everyone else has tried to get information out of him without success. Nell did not go there to interrogate him, she went to set him up so subtly, even he didn’t catch on. I was jumping up and down when she explained what she had done, a tactic Carl himself might have used. I think he finally realized that his arrogance and attitude would only get him killed and it was time to recognize a checkmate.

    Loved Hetty driving get her beloved sportscar after all the references to her having driven races, escape vehicles, and her love of speed over the past seasons. I thought it was pure delight that Deeks reaction was over the top fear of her driving. And this after driving with Kensi? Pure fun.

    I have always suspected Eric of entertaining himself (and probably driving Nell nuts) during all those hours of isolation in Ops. He’s a funny, extroverted nerd with nobody to play with, and while he has the Ops Center to himself (he thinks) why not make it less boring during all the automated searches?

    Sam and Callen were just right. After all the cracks about how great it was to be unencumbered by material objects, Sam got to tease him about the table and the house that has become a home, in spite of Callender.

    Kensi/Sullivan – Sullivan still is extra baggage, but he still is the one who challenged Kensi In a way Deeks could not. Deeks is coming from his love of Kensi and as such, tends to be a bit soft. Sullivan was the embodiment of the Marine essence that Kensi so romanticized in her Dad’s memory. I think, although she never really was one, she thinks of herself as one of the Corps. Sullivan’s reassignment, even as an amputee was a loud “Man up, Marine!” call to the flailing Kensi. Being an NCIS agent and bad-ass Blye is all she’s ever known. Just as when she finally allowed Deeks in, it is totally outside her thought processes at this point that there could be another life for her. She must run, punch, shoot and move as well as she always did. Period. The look on her face when she couldn’t shoot with her left hand (when she could before) said it all. The realization that she might not be able to come back has started to cracking through. We haven’t seen the meltdown that will begin the final healing yet. Until now, coming back to NCIS has been her one fixation.

    I loved Hetty’s challenge to her. Hetty has been the only person not to have ever tread lightly with Kensi. She obviously loves her deeply, but has to be honest on this subject. Being soft is the going to work with Kensi. She needs to prove people wrong, not right.

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  23. The first time i watched this episode I absolutely hated it… i turned off my tv and went ‘wtf?!’
    Then I realized that I had such high expectations for moms scenes and densi scenes coming in, that I didn’t actually hate the episode at all, I just felt so let down! I re-watched it, this time knowing what I was going to get, and tried to stay positive.
    So, to start with the positive, some things i really enjoyed were:
    -Hetty (surprisingly) she was so great and fun to watch, i felt like i was seeing glimpses of the season 1 version of Hetty whom I loved very much.
    -Nell’s confidence in interrogation was very much in character and a great way to expand her skill set, much more believable than having her all of a sudden kicking ass in the field…
    -Deric. I think Deeks and Eric were by far the most enjoyable parts of the episode for me, Deeks is funny with everyone, but it was nice that they were used as humor without seeming incompetent in any way
    -I loved Sam’s responses to Callen’s family and how he really sounds like he supports him… I could have done without the business cards joke, but it is still nice to see them treating Deeks like a brother.
    -moms scene was great, I loved how they both wanted to call ‘Martin’ when Kensi gave them a difficult time.
    -And I didn’t at all understand why they wasted time on that Heather scene in the premiere… so now at least this episode gave a reason for that. I should have remembered NCISLA always has a plan

    Overall I have loved this season, and I really tried to like this episode…. BUT, similar to a lot of the comments left here already, I still have some major issues with it:
    1. i just absolutely do not understand how no one called Kensi to warn her, or included her in anything going on when it so clearly had the capability of affecting her badly. Especially since as far as Deeks knew, his mother was with her… in their house, which is potentially compromised with his injured girlfriend! If that were me, and 2 of the most important people in my life were alone and potentially in danger, you bet I would have called to warn them… it’s just unrealistic that Deeks did not say a thing about or to Kensi the whole beginning of the episode.
    2. I can not stand Sullivan! He just gives me the creeps. I get the point of having him in the Kensi arc, and i think it worked for the most part. Kensi needed someone to challenge her for her to get back to herself and keep her out of a depression. I think this worked well when it was aired in conjunction with the encouraging support from Deeks. I think the previous episode showed that when the challenges couldn’t help, Deeks was there to literally hold her hand. And this episode just took that balance completely out of the equation.
    I get what Gemmill was trying to do by showing the difference between her reactions of being coddled by the moms and being challenged by Sullivan’s success, but it just felt off. And again, I get where they tried to show her reaction to Sullivan by having her challenge herself to cook dinner for Deeks before going to the shooting range, it was a nice gesture, but it didn’t play well on the screen. Deeks just looked confused that there were 6 empty beer bottles littering the house and no Kensi home to share the meal with him… and the viewers were left with absolutely no Densi scene at all. This episode would have been a lot easier to watch had they shown at least one conversation between Kensi and Deeks.
    3. The story Nell said about the dog walking and forgetting the baggies was already used on this show, I believe Callen said that happened to Sam in an undercover assignment a few seasons back

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  24. I had quite high expectations from this episode, for different reasons, the first being the author, whom I had liked in the past season and who seemed to have brought some freshness, realism, continuity and a personal and original touch to the show when she could pen an episode; the second coming from the idea that I had in mind (wrongly, now I see) that this episode – being the last one filmed by DR before her maternity leave – could be seen as the final piece of the “puzzle” of Kensi’s accident/injury/coma/rehab arc, at least so far. I don’t mean that we could be over with her storyline and the repercussions of her long recovery on her job, but we might get a kind of positive, reassuring ending to, let’s say, the first part of her journey, hopefully with Deeks by her side.

    The episode, was, instead, a letdown (for me). Not enormous, but a disappointment anyway, for which I admit I was unprepared, since this season had been giving us high-quality episodes in which everything worked: the cases, Kensi’s story, Densi progression facing Kensi’s recovery, the team’s interactions and friendship and strong bond. This time, in my opinion, we got single scenes which could be enjoyed and appreciated alone (some of them, like Deeks and Hetty in the car), but that didn’t work much together as a whole and especially with the parts filmed in advance.

    I couldn’t quite grasp what the tone of the episode was supposed to be (Comic? Serious? Something in between?) and that did bother me much, even more than seeing no Densi in an episode in which I thought we would get at least one scene as in all the nine before (and I’m sure it wouldn’t have hurt anyone). Now I know I have to wait for three weeks with this bittersweet taste. I hope the Christmas episode will definitely make amends! 🙂

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  25. I’m afraid I’m in the negative camp – I didn’t hate it – it just had so many holes and seemed so disjointed to me. I agree, the leave Kensi home alone – was quite unbelievable. Sam sets the really serious scene with his comments about the mole coming after him, Callen, Hetty (and Kensi if we remember the plant) and then the episode gets silly. Then Hetty’s comment about the wolves at the door played so dark and then we’re silly again. It just couldn’t decide if it was a comedy or dark or?
    I liked the idea of the mom’s – it just was a little over the top, I thought. Maybe one at a time interacting with her, then they come to the Call Martin decision together – but the both going at her at once was just too much.
    I have had bad feelings about Sullivan ever since Deeks first walked in on the two of them. Frankly, I thought the walking into the empty house with the beer bottles and the one pan “dinner” was just one more terrible hit from the self-centered girl friend. I thought he looked devastated, not confused. I know I’d be wondering about this new attraction – with this guy – he is the one who finally seems to succeed in getting her going, and now he’s the one sharing beers in THEIR house. I ALMOST wished they HAD gone with her having feelings for this guy as her rescuer until she realizes he’s going back to his unit and not in it for her . . . realizing, yet again, that only Deeks is in it for her. But this going off with him for a ride in his new truck – just another sample of how little Kensi actually appreciates Deeks for me.
    And – I hope Beth and Lindy D make up…I like both of their opinions. I didn’t ever think Beth didn’t like the show, she was just disappointed in this ep like I was. I agreed with Beth that I am over the Kensi story, mostly because I think they skipped over the most important things: her first steps, her return home, her facing that she might not ever be Agent Kensi again and what was that going to do to her and Deeks – they just glossed over the best stuff, except for the “hand holding”., once they decided she was “better”.
    HOPING the Christmas episode with DR back for real will make up for this episode!!!

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  26. I’m not sure if Kurt Yaeger is just yanking our collective Densi chains or if he might be back as Sullivan. The actor posted on his Instagram account hinting that there might be more going on with Sullivan and Kensi but he can’t spoil it. I hope that something is that Hetty planted him to assist in Kensi’s recovery and that he’s married, etc. Otherwise, I hate that showrunners are putting these hints at Deeks being jealous, Kensi letting a Sullivan in too easily while Deeks had to break down her walls for years. Why does Deeks have to work for Callen, Sam and Kensi’s trust and respect while everyone else gets a pass? Nell is all of a sudden the best damned agent ever and even all the silliness with Eric out on the field but Deeks was treated poorly because he is just a cop? The inconsistencies is driving me away from the show. The nature relationship that was Densi is giving way to potential triangle in the making. Kensi was pushing Deeks for an answer about wanting a baby and buying baby msgazine in one episode and then she’s not ready the next because being agent is only thing she knows. Smh!!

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    • I just looked at the post you referenced and I totally agree with you. From my perspective, if they bring Sullivan on to come between Deeks and Kensi, they will lose many viewers, including me. Deeks has totally and completely supported her, been there for her, if she turns her back on him now, after he proposed , there will be no going back to what was,it will not be recoverable, so Densi will be over.

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      • wow, I will try to find the post you are speaking of once I clean up the mess.
        I just threw up on my keyboard…
        I will be so disappointed if it is true.

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      • I don’t think we should assume the worst about any upcoming episodes with Kensi and Sullivan. Maybe she will put him in his place, or maybe he works for the moles and has been placed to get to her. Whatever it is, I don’t think she would suddenly stop loving Deeks for this guy. I don’t think their relationship is a sexual one, I think she just likes the competition. He’s a rehab buddy, and I hope we get a scene where she shuts him down.

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        • I agree with you that Kensi will not stop loving Deeks. I really wish you wrote for the show. I love the idea of getting a scene where Kensi shuts Sullivan down. If when he asked her in a flirting manner if she wanted to go for a ride, she had said, no ,I need to go home and make a quiche for Deeks, half of the negativity on the internet about this episode would not have appeared. BTW ,I love your fan fiction, you write an awesome Deeks!

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  27. Brenda (@bpnp) // November 29, 2016 at 5:20 PM // Reply

    Great review Karen!! As usual, we think so much alike! I don’t really have anything to add – you really covered everything I might have said. The only question for me was why they have a different house?! Did I forget something about them moving??

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  28. I didn’t like this episode for all the reasons everyone stated. I’m too lazy to rehash it all. The only scene I liked was Hetty and Deeks in the car. It was off the dvr immediately after I watched it. That’s how I know it is a stinker, no desire to watch again.

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  29. Being on vacation, I really looked forward to settling in with a nice glass of wine to watch this episode and I loved it. Maybe it’s because I’m on vacation. This episode had parts that had me laughing out loud and other parts that made me marvel at how all the scenes were knitted together and setting us up for future episodes. I enjoyed reading everyone’s take on this episode. Regarding Sullivan…I personally like Sullivan. He came across as a marine with good instincts about people. There are parts that made me cringe a bit but when do we love everything about a guest character? I loved that he is a solid marine. I loved that he looked forward to joining his team and knew the one-legged jokes were coming…solid attitude. His ability to break through to Kensi and get her going made me happy. Deeks comes from a place of love and is softer…Sullivan is a marine and there’s no crying.

    I know there were comments about leaving the beer bottles out, but how would we know that they spent some time together talking about their injuries and attitude adjustments (at least in my head) while Kensi made a quiche for Deeks? There’s no jealousy on Deeks’s part..he is totally in love with Kensi and vice versa…their bond is strong and will withstand whatever comes ahead. (Note to showrunner’s if reading…I hope). The scene tells the story and we then come to find that Kensi’s at firing practice. I loved Hetty’s talk with Kensi. Hetty was wonderful throughout. The Deeks and Hetty scene in the car was hilarious and definitely the highlight scene for me.

    Thank you Karen for another awesome review! I agreed with everything you wrote! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and everyone’s comments😄

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  30. I enjoyed the review and I enjoyed reading the comments about it. As far as I’m concerned ECO and, therefore Deeks, cannot do anything wrong. Period. At least it hasn’t happened in the past episodes and I see no reason to believe that will happen in the future. I know I’m an over-the-top Deeks freak (sorry to borrow that Colleen) so there you have it. I’m not a big fan of Sullivan and I have a sneaking suspicion there’s some foreshadowing going on but I truly believe that Kensi is true-blue to Deeks. And, yes, like another poster said, you can have a straight man and a straight woman work together and still remain platonic so there’s no reason to believe there’s a hint of a relationship between Sullivan and Kensi..

    That said, what I’m worried about is Granger, or rather Miguel Ferrer. It’s one thing to slur the words and try to make out that it is the character Granger who is sick and all, maybe in the end giving his life to spare the team from the mole, but Ferrer looks like he’s lost a lot of weight that he couldn’t spare to lose to begin with. It worries me because I really like the actor and look forward to his rare tweets and pictures. I hope and pray that he, the actor, is not as ill as it appears on the show.

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  31. Folks, does anyone think Sullivan is part of the mole master plan? How did he get Kensi’s address? I don’t see her giving it out. Plus, breaking Kensi and Deeks up would be ratings suicide, something I’m sure they don’t want.

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  32. I am so happy to see so many comments on this episode that I still cannot come to the terms with.
    I thought that seeing it again would help, but I simply couldn’t make myself. I just want to clarify (if I wasn’t clear enough in my first post) again that I do not think that there is something going on between Kensi and Sullivan (at least not in this moment – whatever show runners chose to do in the future is up to them) and I fully accept and recognize the concept of male/female true friendship (I have several very old and devoted male friends), but the execution of the Kensi/Sullivan scenes, the tone and the atmosphere of the whole episode and the Deeks’ face the moment detective/agent/boyfriend in him appeared and the wheels in his brain started to move and he noticed empty beer bottles saddened me, annoyed me , irritated me and made me angry at the same time.
    I must admit that reading some above posts with different opinion made me feel little better about the whole story development, but the some bitterness remained lingering in me. I honestly do not know now if I would stop following the show if they break Densi, since I haven’t followed it before because of Densi only, but foremost because of Deeks. I think that big part of what makes this show so good and popular and different from other shows was and still is the incredible chemistry between DR and ECO and the way their love story has been developed throughout the seasons. But I guess the show runners think that we need now and then episodes like Drive or Blame it on Rio or this one to keep us on out tiptoes.

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    • I totally agree with you about the fallout if they break Densi up, worst move ever.
      As a guy that has all the DVDs and currently has,… let me check,.. yep, 76 episodes of the show on my DVR…I almost deleted the episode immediately I was so irritated.
      The show without ECO or Densi would not be worth watching. I struggle to be interested in the first season when ECO wasn’t there. I do watch the episodes where he was…
      I actually wasn’t too interested before Deeks showed up. The show was too Sam and Callen centric and Kensi was just a second thought or side story without Deeks to play off of.

      It does strike me a little odd and since I am suspicious by nature I am slightly concerned with the situation.
      Does it appear to anyone else that the writers are giving the teammates each chances to be” the funny one” the last year or so. It seems they have ramped up the comedy from the others almost like they are testing out to see if one of them could provide the long term comic relief if Deeks wasn’t there…
      Although not likely…I hope not…
      There is a very real possibility I would stop watching if it happened.

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  33. I just have to add one thing I loved: that guitar (or bass guitar) in Deeks and Kensi’s house.
    (It can be seen for example in that mom scene near the front door/window). I loved that nod to Rockstar Deeks 🙂

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  34. I have enjoyed reading all the reviews for Sirens. Wow, it really hit a nerve with some folks, eh? I agree with much of what many pointed out, on both the positive and negative camps. Me personally, overall I really enjoyed the ep. I thought some of the scenes were hilarious, while others left me wondering. It definitely felt disjointed in spots (the Kensi scenes).

    Regarding Sullivan; I do enjoy the character. Yes, he was over the top and very forward with Kensi from the get-go, but that is what she responds to best, I think. Someone else pointed out that Deeks was that way with her when they first met. Naturally, their relationship has evolved into something more than just being partners who go out of their way to annoy each other. Kensi needed a wake up call. Hello, Sullivan.

    I think Deeks is confident enough in their relationship to not be threatened by Sullivan. Who knows, maybe it was Deeks himself who initiated Sullivan confronting Kensi? Possibly through Hetty? Stranger things have happened. I will admit I found it odd that Sullivan knew where Kensi and Deeks lived. I also thought it strange that no one thought to make Kensi aware that the mole situation was flaring up and needed to be on the look out. Unless…maybe Hetty was behind Sullivan showing up for the purpose of keeping an eye out without alerting the mole that Kensi had back-up? Okay, maybe a stretch there…

    Great review, as always!

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    • I totally agree! When Sullivsn first showed up, I thought that Deeks set up Sullivan to challenge Kensi. Deeks seemed so non chalant about Kensi making a new friend when he walked in on them arm wrestling. I recall another fan thinking it may be Hetty. I think both scenarios work because we (Deeks and Hetty) know that Kensi responds to a challenge. What better challenge than someone who suffered a terrible injury outdoing her lifting weights and getting up and just getting to it?

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  35. The Hetty deeks car scene was actually a highlight for me, but I have mixed feelings
    However, I think that while the Hetty in the car scene, while funny, it was kind of ridiculous and immature. Someone ( sorry I cant find it at the moment) already said she acted like she was 5 and I completly agree.
    The reaction of Deeks was humorous, but I agree that given the circumstances, the scene seemed a little odd and out of place.
    It did check a box or 2 though. Get Hetty in the field. …Funny scene with Hetty/ Deeks

    After that, the scene in the house was pretty bad. The show usually does a very good job of attempting to be somewhat accurate in the way they do things. The fact that they have used consultants is obvious.
    When the team performs a breach entry, they discuss the entry and time the breach.
    The partners stay together, each assigned a quadrant or side of the room, use good eye contact and hand signals when needed and use taps on the thigh and such to let the point man know they are there, what side they are on and that they are ready. Things like that are pretty cool to see.
    What we got instead was Deeks with absolutely no idea where his partner ( Hetty ) was. If she was in the house or not and where she entered. That’s how teammates get shot from friendly fire. Just plain stupid.
    I realize it was all a setup for a cute Sam/ Hetty moment when he clotheslined the bad guy.
    Neither Sam nor Callen would have tolerated that crap from Kensi or Deeks.
    just silly.

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  36. I still want to trust what ECO said last summer after filming all the scenes with Daniela before her maternity leave, that this storyline would be the best to happen to Kensi and Deeks and that they would be back to be partners in all senses, both in the field and out, when all was said and done.
    It’s only a pity that what had been a realistic and, in my opinion, very emotional arc, was quite ruined in this last episode by scenes that didn’t fit much with the rest of the storyline, totally skipping other meaningful moments that could have been perfect to end an amazing journey. We can’t have all, can we?

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    • I am 100% with you on this one. You really said aloud my thoughts too. I also chose to trust ECO and his words you mentioned above and I am sad that they ruined to some extent the beautiful story (that I actually expected knowing all that has been said before the start of the new season). I guess we indeed can’t have all…but we have all the rights to wish all.

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    • You said what I was thinking so well, I totally agree. I rewatched much of the season over the last several days, and the emotional arc was incredible. The scenes that were newly filmed for the arc were also incredible, Hetty counseling Deeks, Granger having a heart to heart with Deeks, they were beautifully done. ECO delivered a passionate performance every single time , it was just wonderful. So to come to the end of the arc and be so disappointed , is what I think is fueling so many of these comments on this episode..

      I did not like the Sullivan arc at all, as I said above, I understood the fact that he was pushing her, but I just found him so sexist and so disrespecting of Kensi, Deeks, and their relationship, I could not get past that. However,I realized this time viewing that whenever there was a scene with Sullivan that annoyed me it was balanced out in the episode with a perfect Densi scene , like the checkers scene. The final episode had no such balance, if anything it had a very sad, Deeks scene.

      I do hope that one of ECO’s publicity minions actually monitors your reviews. Although , we do not have agreement on views which is a good thing, there are so many Deeks/Densi fans that have taken lots of their own time and have shown their passion for Densi and described in detail their unhappiness in these comments. Since there obviously are folks who want this arc with Sullivan to continue ( not me) , it seems like it is really important that TPTB understand where and for which fans it failed . I do believe that the Densi fans are driving the high ratings beating the Walking Dead. I honestly believe that ECO and DR would actually be very surprised by these assembled reviews because I do not think they get this kind of feedback elsewhere.

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    • Didn’t ECO say that he thought they would because the characters belonged together.
      I took it as how he felt and thought, because at that point he had not seen the script beyond what we have already seen now. I am unsure of the timeline.
      Getting them together, finally, at the end of season 10, will not be ok with me.
      Kensi is not back yet, the mole is still out there, internal affairs will be back we will probably see creepy Sullivan again There is lots of things for the writers to use to divide them and it irritates me to no end.
      I would like for them to work through these things together

      I think we have to look at that when an actor says that it is a great storyline, they are coming from a different perspective than a fan. ECO and DR have been playing these parts for 7 and 8 years. They love to spread their wings and try new things, expand the character, play something different.
      Yes, they are invested in the character, but from a different point of view.
      For example, I think that DR or ECO would praise the writers and a story that had these plotlines that they got to act out so deeply and conflicted…

      Kensi, depressed and in a moment of weakness actually sleeps with Sullivan. Then she is setting on her and Deeks bed, pulls out her ring from Deeks sock drawer and looks at while breaking down. Says why, why, what have I done…. how can I fix this this, how do I tell him…with Monte trying to console her and whimpering and licking her hand, she looks at him and says “I have ruined everything” Monte just stares at her and cries.

      Kensi becomes addicted to pain meds and hides the fact from Deeks. She is caught buying drugs from LAPD. Or she can’t hide the money spent anymore and in an alley, debates “working out a trade” for the drugs.

      She becomes depressed about not being able to work and pulls away. She leaved Deeks and everyone else. Deeks finds her weeks later homeless and on the streets while she is having flashbacks.

      Right after Kensi gets her ring, one of Deeks old girlfriends shows up with his kid.
      Deeks decides to do the right thing and make a family with his x and the kid instead of marrying the love of his life. Lots of tension between the partners. Deeks debated going back to LAPD or the team switches partners but Kensi still can’t stand to be around Deeks.

      I think the actors would love to play these storylines for the challenge of something different, even if the arc was a full season, while most of the Densi fans would just hate it.
      So when they say ” it is a great story”, I am always cautious.

      I agree that the Densi fans drive a big part of the ratings and hopefully the writers are listening.
      Since the actors and writers don’t have enough Neilson connected TV boxes themselves, they still need us….
      I do not this to take years to get them together. Get moving.
      I do believe they will get together, I just hope it is not way, way down the road.
      They have been through enough, let them face new problems together as a happy couple
      I am hopeful there is a ring on Kensi’s finger soon

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      • You’re right: when being interviewed back in the summer, ECO must have had a limited perspective of the events of Kensi’s disability arc and Densi storyline planned to allow Daniela to take her maternity leave, in fact he said they had filmed all the scenes for the first 10 episodes, which just leads to Sirens… Of the events after that episode he probably didn’t have any idea. But I like Deeks’ character and the actor and the man so much that I still feel like trusting him with everything especially when he says that Deeks and Kensi are meant to be together, which is exactly my feeling!

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  37. Also I saw the dude that plays Sullivan on another show (Lethal Weapon), as a villain. He was a menacing good villain. If they don’t utilize him on NCISLA as a villain, they are foolish.

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    • The dude is Kurt Yaeger; he’s an amazing person; you should look up his bio. His story is inspiring and from what I’ve read he’s a really good guy.

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      • I am quite sure, he is a great person. Unfortunately I think he was written badly and given bad direction on his character. I think he was played as too macho to be liked by a portion of the LA audience and that combined with the creepiness of his character did not play well.If he turns out to be a villain then it all makes sense.

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  38. Karen, Thank you for a great review, but for my part, after having
    watched “Sirens”, I, too belong to the negative camp. And I
    feel extremely uncomfortable about it. First, after the
    deeply poignant and powerful scene when Kensi and
    Deeks entwined their hands in “Glasnost”. The complete
    absence of any scenes between Kensi and Deeks.
    As for Sullivan with his unannounced visit, six pack and car.
    He was written as a creep, and I do not trust him at all. He
    could be still one of the wolves to which Hetty referred so
    dramatically. My heart truly went out to Deeks when he came
    home at an empty house. It was a terrible scene with those empty
    beer bottles and the quiche in the fridge. After all the effort
    to bring Kensi and Deeks together, I am at a loss about
    the writers intentions. Are they going for the triangle thing?
    Or what? And I do not agree with the writers that only
    Sullivan could have motivated Kensi.
    As well as I think that it would have been better if there had
    been an episode between “Parallel Resistors” and “Glasnost”
    which could have shown Kensi’s first steps and further progress
    in walking. Then the gap in her recovery between “Parallel Resistors”
    and “Glasnost” would not have been so huge. And her difficult journey
    would have been much more credible and honest than now (when they
    did not address this at all).
    Cladani and Maria, like both of you, I, too still trust what ECO said
    about this storyarc. But after this disjointed episode which was so
    riddled with holes, I was upset and frustrated.
    Ed, I agree with you completely in so many ways. The writing for
    Hetty was uneven and inconsistent. First, there is the drama with
    her “wolves” comment, then she gets elated at driving in her car with
    Deeks. Her behaviour at the house breach was downright unprofessional.
    And what do writers want to do with Callen? At the end of Glasnost I applauded
    Callen’s heartfelt wish and yearning for no more secrets and to move forward and to
    to get to know Alex and her son. But in “Sirens” he has changed his mind again.
    The way in which the writers throw the viewers totally off balance and put them
    on the wrong track is extremely frustrating and confounding.
    Ed, like you, I loved the moms, Julia and Roberta have a wonderful chemistry.
    And I think that a scene with Julia combing Kensi’s hair could have been very
    tender and touching. And I do hope that Julia and Roberta will return.
    I, too really hope that there will be a scene in “Tidings We Bring” in which
    Kensi says I love you to Deeks and affirms how he means everything to
    her and that she will kiss him.
    “Sirens” was definitely not one of my favourite episodes. But I still most firmly
    believe that Kensi loves Deeks truly and deeply.
    Raven

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  39. In all the above 83 comments we have forgotten to ask the most important question!!! Where is Monty?

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  40. Yeah, where’s Monte ?
    Would have thought that a scene with Monte running up to Kensi when she returned home could have been cute, or the 3 of them on the couch, …something.
    Maybe Hetty sent Monte to Afghanistan without telling anyone….worse has happened before, just saying.
    wow , where did that come from…..

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  41. Warning! moderate levels of Hetty bashing below
    If you happen to think that Hefty is a wonderful nurturing, motherly figure that is on par with Mother Teresa, you may want to stop here. Further reading will likely lead to you becoming irritated…or informed. Kidding.
    Obviously I still have some issues with Hetty.
    I am irritated about the way the interaction with Kensi went it still bothers me and some is due to residual feelings I am sure.
    Was she right to not let Kensi return, obviously. Was Kensi ready to return, of course not. I just did not like the tone of the conversation.
    I was raised and taught that it is not always what you say, but how you say it. That words and actions matter. That it is not just the message but how you deliver it and a good message can be lost if it is delivered poorly. I feel that Hetty did the right thing in about the worst way possible.
    Was she looking out for the team and Kensi, yes of course, but handle it differently.
    How many times has she called one of her agents into a hug, especially Kensi…. might have been a good time for one you think, maybe. Instead of using the opportunity to see how Kensi was progressing, for example, shoot with the right hand, shoot with both while holding the gun in the left (left handed double grip), then move to the left hand single grip. Allow Kensi to demonstrate a little success in what she has worked so hard to regain. She how she is doing, where she is at physically, what she can do and what she can’t, set some goals, and mix in a little encouragement along with tour expectations. For a return to duty. Instead she just set her up to fail and then slammed the door in her face so to speak. While she was at it, I am surprised she didn’t walk up and kick Kensi in the leg to see how it was healing…. really. the blank stare and no response from hetty was heartbreaking.

    I guess I should have expected it, what with hetty previous displays of nurturing and support.
    Afghanistan in general
    Not telling Kensi about Jack as the ghost and letting her first see him in the crosshairs.
    Letting Deeks think Kensi got sent away because of him
    Setting up a huge lie to Kensi, letting her think Deeks shot someone and got fired.
    Making Deeks be a part of it and have to lie to Kensi.
    The Paul Angelo interview.
    Not telling Kensi that jack was in LA and blind siding her
    Suggesting that Deeks lie to Kensi and keep truth about Boyle from her.
    The list goes on.
    Let’s not loose site of the fact that they work in a high-risk job where full support and trust in your team, boss and partner is often a matter of life and death.
    . yep, great nurturing, support and trust building at its finest….

    Have any of you parents out there ever figured out how to be firm or say no to one of your children while still being supportive, caring and encouraging…. or even a coworker for that matter…If so, maybe you can text or email to Hetty, because she sure hasn’t.
    She says they likes to think of her agents like the kids she never had, well great job then…
    Mother of the year material, right there………

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  42. Olapa, Maria and Ed,

    Olapa, I did not mean in any way offense to Kurt Yaeger.
    He is a wonderful actor and his personal story is extraordinary.
    But I definitely stand by my criticism of the character of
    Sullivan.
    Maria, thank you for mentioning the absence of Monty. I was
    too upset and forgot to include him.
    Ed, You offer interesting and thought provoking points. I, too
    understand that Daniela and Eric Christian would be challenged
    by playing a much different storyarc for Kensi and Deeks.
    To get back for a moment to Hetty. I agree with you the
    scene between Hetty and Kensi at the shooting range was
    heartwrenching. The way in which Hetty made her point to
    Kensi was heartless. I did not perceive any warmth or
    encouragement on Hetty’s part towards Kensi. If Hetty
    considers her agents as her “children”, I could not see
    any of this here. Because earlier during the episode
    Hetty literally lamented that her career was at stake. Well,
    how about the safety of her agents and all the other NCIS
    employees?
    I truly hope that “Tidings We Bring” will somehow redeem
    the ruins wrecked by “Sirens”.
    My wishes and hopes for the next episodes would also be:
    -That they finally resolve the storyarc of the mole during
    this season.
    -No more recurring characters who hit on one of the leading
    characters, like for instance Talia, Anna or Sullivan
    -As already stated I hope that Julia and Roberta will
    return. And I also hope that the writers will not forget to include
    Monty.
    -As for Callen, that they will continue with what was stated
    at the end of “Glasnost” about no more secrets and that
    Callen and Garrison will tell Alex and her son!
    -That Kensi will regain 100% use of her left hand and can
    return as Deeks’s partner to the field. As her grave injuries,
    the difficult, emotional journey of her recovery was one of
    the most severe tests of her relationship with Deeks. And
    that the writers will not put any impediments in their way
    again. I, too dearly hope to see that beautiful ring on her
    finger and her yes to his proposal during this season!
    Raven

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    • stardustraven
      Thank you,
      And I am glad you didn’t misinterpret my story examples as anything I would want to see. Ever…
      My reservations about a “fantastic story” comment from the actors is partly based on their perspective, comments they have made, and the things they have done in the past. For example, take a look at Daniela. She seems to gravitate to these tragic characters, many with horrible outcomes. After the Soaps she was in, look at the projects and parts she gravitates towards.
      Red Tails- her lover dies
      Safe Haven- a single pregnant woman giving her child up into the system when neither her or the father wants to keep it.
      Blind Confessions- a blind woman- who has never had sex before
      Midnight Passion- Drugged in a bar and winds up a victim of organ harvesting
      Excuse- a hospital patient
      Canaviais- I believe involves abortion topics.
      Proof- a woman takes care of her mentally ill father, then worries it will happen to her.

      She is a fantastic actress whom I love, but many of the plotlines she is attracted to would not make the Densi fans very happy….me included
      Not everything she does is this dark, but it is quite a list.

      I do really agree that Densi should get together this season and I would love a proposal for Christmas
      I can wait for the wedding, but I would like to see the ring on her finger.

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  43. stardustraven,
    well said.
    you have put together a wonderful wish list for Christmas….
    Let’s hope that Santa and the elves can get the people doing the writing to show some holiday cheer.

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  44. A MOMENT OF PERSPECTIVE
    Thinking about the fans visceral reactions to the last episode and my own disappointment, I thought I would look into not just how I feel but why. The fans, and myself, react like this because we care. This show makes us care. The show runners, writers, directors, actors and the rest of the crew create a world and characters that we actually care about. Although we don’t all feel the same way or agree on everything, we all care to some level. We are invested enough to come here and talk about it. We get emotional about fictional characters. What a wonderful thing.
    I was realizing that with any other show, if I was frustrated or didn’t like the way the episode or show was playing out, I would just turn the channel, turn the TV off, stop recording the series…something. Instead, this is the only show where I come to a place like this to discuss things. Really, you watch something that bothers you and then you go online to talk about it some more…you care.
    I thought about how the show has gotten to where it is now and the changes that it has endured
    It has moved from Tuesday to Monday night opposite a very popular Castle and the tail end of Monday night football in parts of the country. Now, the move to Sunday and often gets pushed back because of football….and it still has me hooked.
    The show has done away with Dom, pushed Nate to the background, brought in Deeks ( yay) and Nell and then Granger. The changes have all worked wonderfully. In comparison, NCIS NO has struggled with the replacement of Brody and NCIS, although wildly popular, has never held the same interest to me after Ziva left and now with Dinozzo gone it is just not the same.
    The show had to create a story arc to accommodate Dani’s pregnancy twice now and has done a great job of keeping the female lead in every episode. And, not just was she there, but a big part of the story.
    That is just fantastic. I mean, instead of her disappearing for half a season, Kensi and her relationship with Deeks, is a huge topic of conversation every week. What a great job.
    I think I may be acting like a parent, where no matter how happy I am with my child’s success, I always want the best for them and encourage them to do better.
    That being said, I still want Kensi back and a ring on her finger.

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    • Ed,
      Very well said and thank you for your kind
      words!
      And you are definitely right, we visit WikiDeeks
      because we care about these characters and
      here is a place to share-, talk about them and
      to learn from each other and to agree- or dis-
      agree with the writers decisions about characters
      and storyarcs (such as for instance the scene
      between Kensi and Hetty at the shooting range).
      For my part, I discovered NCIS: Los Angeles
      through the original “NCIS” series and it has
      riveted me to the screen ever since. Though
      I still regret the departure of characters who
      were killed off like Dom, Renko and Thapa.
      But like you, I felt that when Deeks came
      aboard with the magical chemistry between
      Daniela and Eric Christian something special
      and interesting happened. And I suspect
      that the writers would not want to commit
      ratings suicide by breaking down such an
      amazing chemisty.
      There is also something which I would like
      to add to my list:
      Besides the moms, I hope that Arkady, Garrison
      (as said a compelling and also complex character)
      will return, as well as Alex and her son (and that Alex
      as a character will be fleshed out).
      Then as for Callen, is he truly ready for a romantic
      relationship? I am very uncertain about that, now
      that he knows about Alex and her son. I think
      it is first and foremost crucial for him to be a
      brother and uncle. I think that instead of Anna
      the writers could have created a strong and
      independent female character who was not
      related to Arkady. And they could have
      developed a gradual relationship between Callen
      and her. My candidates for such a strong female
      character would have been Sasha Alexander,
      Angie Harmon or Stana Katic.
      And Kensi and Deeks may be fictional characters
      but I care deeply about them.
      Raven

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  45. A spectacular discussion – you all rock!

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  46. Guess we aren’t quite done with Sullivan yet.
    Dani doesn’t usually get negative comments on her media posts, but that is not quite the case this time. Some fans are not too happy…. with Sullivan, not Dani obviously.
    Responses are mixed at best…who would have thought, right
    Unfortunately, some people are not clarifying the difference between the character and the actor. Great guy, poorly constructed character.
    First off let me state for the record that I think Curt is a great inspiring person and a good actor for where he is in his career. I still don’t like the character very much.
    In theory, the character is interesting not a bad idea in and of itself. The way it was written and directed is where the issue arises. He could have been a likable guy, but he isn’t right now, at least to me.
    I would like to see a lot more of Curt…. on another show… as was previously stated by others, and I agree, he is stirring things up to get more social media attention because shows look for that kind of thing when looking to hire actors, especially for less experienced ones. Having a following and online presence helps with marketability…I get it.
    Now Daniela Ruah appears to be helping him…stir things, that is.
    So, if we get Sullivan back, how would it be acceptable to the majority of the Densi fans.
    As a friend, first there is the sexist pig issue. If he is a friend he really needs to engage Deeks as well and have scenes with Densi together, show Deeks some respect and respect for the relationship. Maybe Deeks can teach him how to surf.
    It would be good to see him acknowledge he said those things to Kensi to motivate her and does not really feel or talk like that.
    If the next time we see him is as a guest at a Densi wedding that would be fine.
    Maybe he makes a move on or tries to assault Kensi and Deeks shoots him in the head…. there I said it…glad that is out of my system, sorry.
    Maybe Kensi shuts him down and…. kicks him somewhere, just sayin’
    Maybe he is part of the mole plot and gets killed by the team.

    So, there we have it, either Sullivan needs to die soon or he has to redeem himself and at least become more likable by engaging Deeks and our favorite couple respectfully.
    Out of curiosity, is there a way to search for phrases here so we can see just how many times things like Creepy, Sexist Pig, and Redneck, were used to describe Sullivan? …Just a thought. Gotta be a lot, right.

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    • I think Sullivan has something to do with the mole plot. 8×14 will be very interesting episode if this pic from Dani and that pic where we can see a page from the script are both from same episode (they seem to be).
      I personally do not dislike Sullivan as much as many others, at least not yet 🙂 , we will see what writers and producers do with that character in the future. As Ed mentioned some people (on twitter and instagram) do not clarify the difference between actor and character and some comments have been quite harsh towards Kurt.

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      • I agree, but although there are some harsh comments, there are far more fans that are attacked because they expressed their dislike of the Sullivan character or the way he is written and portrayed, because others take it as an attack on Curt himself, which is not the case.
        again, good guy, crap character…
        His trolling for people to repost his inflammatory comments doesn’t help. I know it is to get his name out there and help his career,stir things up anf create buzz, but some backlash is to be expected.
        to post something like that involving one of TVs most popular “ships” and not expect some negative reactions is just foolish.
        this isn’t a lovefest, People that post on the net, only want positive responses and are surprised and defensive when there is some bad responses to a posting like that are rather sheltered and not being fair to the public. Expecting hundreds of thousands or millions of people to all agree with crap stirring post like that is foolish.

        that BUZZ that he is creating just might be a bunch of hornets.
        …watch out buddy, you may get stung….

        considering the circumstances, I am not surprised he did it, but I am a little surprised that Daniela added fuel to the fire. after the response the last episode created, I would have expected her to stay clear, tough timing.
        She usually gets like 99.999 % positive responses to her social media posts…but sure not this time.

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      • AnneS,
        I seem to recall this same type of thing happened to(ECO’s) Sarah a few months back.
        She is a great person that has all these wonderful posts that people just seem to love.
        Then during a period of posts showing her new baby girl, she decided to do some political campaigning… she posted a pic of her and her baby while she was wearing a shirt advertising her choice for president. wow did that go sideways. For someone who gets nearly total positive responses to postings…just wow. what should have a discussion of her and her beautiful daughter, turned into a political rock throwing contest, what a shame.
        She didn’t get attacked personally (too much) but her choices sure did. there were a lot of disappointed people, some with her choice, but more with just her bringing it into the pic to start with.
        It only happened once, I don’t think that type of discussion was one she wanted to be a part of.

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    • Ed, you have made some really good points. The character of Sullivan which has nothing to do with the actor who played him was not well received by many fans. I disliked the entire Sullivan arc. NCIS, the mothership has been getting beaten up for not letting its characters change, whereas LA is getting kudos for letting its characters develop. Kensi in season 7 and 8, is surrounded by people who love her and she has “let in” . Her walls are down, she let her mom back into her life, she has a fiancee, and she has family with all the team. She is also an incredibly strong woman. How wonderful would it have been to have an arc where the love of fiancee and her extended family, combined with a marine counselor person who got her to develop further and “talk” about her fears for her career, for her relationship with Deeks, got her through this. Instead we backslid to season 2 Kensi, a macho marine that she throws carrots at and gets in a headlock is her salvation. Sorry it did not work.

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      • I agree,
        But you know what is a shame, think how different it could have been.
        Consider how much more positive the conversation would have been with the addition of one single 2 minute scene with Kensi and Deeks together.
        The sad thing was there was plenty of room to fit it in. The interrogation went on for nearly 8 minutes. Trim the Nell/ Carl thing down to 6 minutes, add a little Densi, and things go much differently, don’t you think.
        10 entire episodes into the season, and the omission of one Densi scene is creating all this backlash. Even those that didn’t like the arc were at least placated with the Densi scenes each week…..then, nothing.
        Hey writers…missed it by that much…

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        • Totally agree with you, just one Densi would have made the difference. Maybe you can write for the show!!!

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          • I agree, one Densi scene was all that it needed. After I rewatched the episode also editing/placement of scenes could have been better, like for example going from showing empty beer bottles to Kensi practising shooting felt weird for me ( even if we don’t know for sure who drank those beers and I guess it was morning when Sullivan came with those beers).

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  47. This is all to create buzz. I hate when producers and actors stir up fans just to get Twitter hits and instagram comments. Then fans take it too far and they start to get personal and then argue about being true fans. I find it unbecoming on both sides. I refuse to engage (except here because this is an respectful site) on Twitter and instagram (don’t have an account). If the show disappoints me, I’ll stop watching. I’ve done it before with other shows and stopped watching NCISLA for a half a season and only came back when I heard it was safe again.

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    • Diane,
      I agree, I do not engage on Twitter or Instagram either. it can get out of hand and rather than debate, I just choose not to participate.
      out of curiosity, when did you stop watching for a portion of the season?
      my guess would be the Afghanistan arc

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      • After that pretentious Three Hearts and into season 6. Started watching again after with Christmas episode. Also took a small break after Drive.

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  48. NOTE, Below are some ridiculous over the top statements made to make a point.
    They are mean and only made to show how a joke may not be funny to everyone involved.
    Regardless of how funny they think it is the producers and actors are talking about something the fans care about. it is a real concern to them because it matters to them.
    I get that many of the sites are just logging total hits and not whether the comment was positive or negative and they are just looking for numbers, but it is not cool.
    it is not really funny to many of the fans. How about if it went the other way…
    Hey, how about if someone sent Dani a letter on copied Immigration Service letterhead stating that due to a recent change in official policy that the US would no longer allow dual citizenship. Thus, her and her children would have to choose to give up their Portuguese citizenship or she would have to be here on a temporary work visa as a non US citizen….funny joke right.
    …Or how about those fun loving writers and producers sending her a memo stating that due to new insurance policy regulations that her children were not allowed to be on Paramount property without being directly supervised by a family member, no more nanny in the trailer while she is working.
    …boy that’s funny… those silly guys…

    not so funny when it is something that you care about….so knock it off….

    I am an awful person.
    And, if we get into a mean spirited prank contest , sign me up.

    Just making a point folks.

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  49. I don’t like Sullivan and tweeted that I FF through all Sullivan scenes and that I found the character annoying. Kurt Yaeger tweeted me back asking why I disliked Sullivan. I tweeted him that I thought Sullivan was a sexist, smug, macho dude who judged Deeks as some sort of wimp slacker surfer. I even added Bruh! to my comment. I do not think I was disrespectful to the actor as I was talking about the character of Sullivan. He relied that he thought I had some interesting points and thanked me. He also tweeted that strong reaction (+ or -) is better than no reaction. To me he really is enjoying stirring the pot and creating angst. Seems like any publicity is good publicity. He comes off generally as a nice guy but every once in a while I read a tweet or comment that leads me to do a double take and makes me feel like he’s not so sincere and he’s purposely tiling everyone up. Either way, I am still FF his screen time.

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  50. I agree with your comments: a single well-written, well-directed and well-acted Densi scene would have totally made the difference in the last episode, but I understand we can’t have all we want.

    As for me, I have been watching NCIS:LA since the very first episodes of Season 1. As many of us here, I have been through sudden unexplainable missions, Afghanistan, imaginary White Ghosts, I have survived Talia, boxes, knives, raccoons, frozen lakes and metaphors.
    I’m still here because I care.
    I fell in love with two very flawed fictional characters and I still do love them and their story.
    This said, I won’t be scared nor sent away by any random guy with beers showing up uninvited at the door. But I claim the “fan right” to (respectfully) say if I like/don’t like a storyline/episode.
    That’s all.

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